hello all i have the part in the yearbook and cannot find anything on the "smear campaign" and "media attack" on the witnesses in norway.
any ideas?
i have googled all kinds of inquiries and came up with nothin..
MSC, can you record your talk and post it on Youtube for all us?
It's going to be difficult to do a neutral talk since WTB$ has brought most of this persecution on themselves.
One of those links in that article quotes a psychologist [? probably slaughtered the spelling] as saying that JW's are raising a new generation of serial killers
todays scientists can and do insert their trademark into dna.. why couldn't jehovah anticipate scientists learning this technique and stumbling across a strand that says "human by yhwh"?.
that would have answered a lot of questions.. he could have even included a model number human2.0.
I was just watching a documentary and they said that a mathematical genius took the letters of the tetragrammaton YHVH and did a long drawn out calculation & formula, his conclusion?
The formula for the YHVH? = human DNA
I'll see if i can find that again and post it
hello all i have the part in the yearbook and cannot find anything on the "smear campaign" and "media attack" on the witnesses in norway.
any ideas?
i have googled all kinds of inquiries and came up with nothin..
hello all i have the part in the yearbook and cannot find anything on the "smear campaign" and "media attack" on the witnesses in norway.
any ideas?
i have googled all kinds of inquiries and came up with nothin..
I don't know if this is what you're thinking of.... http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fnyheter%2Fnorge%2F1.10651396&act=url This one below is how they're trying to get the JW kid's literature banned because of the violence & murder in them: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fnyheter%2Fnorge%2F1.10651396&act=url
so i have been a lurker on this forum since its inception.
i registered over a year ago.
i jumped in several months back with a highly controversial subject of my daughter being sexually abused by an elder and the efforts we were taking to bring him to justice.
Welcome Tylin to you & your family. So sorry about all of yuor traumatic experiences.
I was just watching a Youtube video about a case, and was cheering when Judge Dickerson would not let them use the 'Clergy confidentiality clause because of that AWAKe article
Youtube video of that case:
Glad you & your family are out and doing better. Peace be with you in your journey.
i just heard a rumor and trying to verify it.
a current jw just told us that the elder's are now a separate entity and that when brought into court hearings and they try to use the 'clergy confidentiality clause' that the wtbt$ backs off and says the elders are their own separate entity.. anyone heard anything like this?.
Sorry, lost some of my post somewhere in cyberspace.
There was a recent court case where Elders tried the 'Clergy confidentiality clause' so they wouldn't have to testify and BAM! Awake magazine was entered into evidence that JW's have no clergy class so could not use that clause.
Youtube video link talking about the case:
But then a friend of ours just told us about a letter that was sent out, basically throwing the Elders under the bus legal wise.
i just heard a rumor and trying to verify it.
a current jw just told us that the elder's are now a separate entity and that when brought into court hearings and they try to use the 'clergy confidentiality clause' that the wtbt$ backs off and says the elders are their own separate entity.. anyone heard anything like this?.
I just heard a rumor and trying to verify it. A current JW just told us that the Elder's are now a separate entity and that when brought into court hearings and they try to use the 'Clergy confidentiality clause' that the WTBT$ backs off and says the Elders are their own separate entity.
Anyone heard anything like this?
so, i finally decided to become a member and make my first post .
a bit about me:.
i've been lurking around the forum for quite some time (about 6 months i think).
Conscience class is what quite a few of us view ourselves, instead of the WTBT$ 'apostates' term. Because we have not apostatized from God or Jesus. You can Google 'Conscience class' or you can go to JWSTRUGGLE.com
if jesus is the exact representation of his heavenly father, and if "god is love", and if there is no greater love than to give up one's own life for others, then if jesus gave up his life for mankind as the greatest act of love ever performed, why would jehovah be more concerned about his own name being vindicated and his rule being proven to be superior to man's rule than preventing untold millions of innocent persons over thousands of years from suffering and dying horribly?.
wouldn't jehovah be just like his son, jesus, and choose to sacrifice his own name and reputation out of his great love for mankind rather than permit so much suffering for thousands of years?
why would the almighty creator of the universe care so much about being 'slandered' by a rebellious spirit creature that he would have to permit so much suffering for so long?
Larsinger58- Regarding your comment about Jesus being Michael the Archangel, don't want to start an arguement, but just want to share something with you that I found. Jesus cannot be an angel. Heb 1:13 [LBT] "And did God ever say to an angel, as he does to his son, 'Sit here beside me in honor until I crush all your enemies beneath your feet"?
if jesus is the exact representation of his heavenly father, and if "god is love", and if there is no greater love than to give up one's own life for others, then if jesus gave up his life for mankind as the greatest act of love ever performed, why would jehovah be more concerned about his own name being vindicated and his rule being proven to be superior to man's rule than preventing untold millions of innocent persons over thousands of years from suffering and dying horribly?.
wouldn't jehovah be just like his son, jesus, and choose to sacrifice his own name and reputation out of his great love for mankind rather than permit so much suffering for thousands of years?
why would the almighty creator of the universe care so much about being 'slandered' by a rebellious spirit creature that he would have to permit so much suffering for so long?
The biggest thing, Jesus paid the ransom, DONE.
IF there was an universal issue [God's RIGHT to rule] to be settled, there is nothing in the bible mentioning it. Satan wanted worship for himself, but he did not come out directly and challenge God's right to rule. Isa 14:14
If there had been a question about God's 'right to rule', then Satan would have totally ignored God's mandate not to kill Job. Just like we can reason out, that Satan had tried to kill Jesus from the moment he was born, but was not allowed to, until God's appointed time.
